Surfing and sustainability, there’s a lot of that in this episode. We talk to our third in a trinity of alumni guests, Joel Cesare Lafayette Class of ’04. Sustainable Building Advisor in the Office of Sustainability and the Environment for the City of Santa Monica (come and knock on their door), entrepreneur and co-founder of StokeShare, former varsity football player, current generous and congenial guy, Joel is a breath of fresh air. That’s almost wordplay because of the sustainability stuff, because fresh air, clean air, like environmentalism—but also it’s an interview and Fresh Air is an interview show too, so we did that. Anyhoozle. As ever, 10/20/30 music, the quiz, Friday/Sunday, and your routine: follow us on twitter @somelaterdate, like us on Fb, listen to Spotify, rate us on iTunes, and subscribe. Thanks to Michelle for Producing, Will for Playlisting, Johnny as our Talent Acquisition intern, and Very Special Guest Episode Introducer (and Publicity Intern, European Division) Peter Van Manen. Credit to Wilco and Incubus.